I think we do this very well. We get together all the time. We talk about these things.
An important need is to improve pathways for students, not just between or among colleges but between universities and colleges. That's a big need in Canada. We have all sorts of blockages for learners.
Germany has a laddering system where you can always move ahead. In Canada we have issues that make that difficult, especially with the universities. We're working at that. But among colleges, I think we're quite good at integrating.
Of course, the Red Seal program is a tremendous federal contribution to this. It would be good to grow that. We have a certain number of apprenticeships in that area, but we could have more.