Thank you very much, Ms. Nash.
I have two more members who would like to ask questions, I and Mr. Hoback. Can I indulge the witnesses to stay for an extra few minutes? If you have to go, we understand that.
Perhaps I'll pick up where Ms. Nash left off.
Mr. Sanger, you talked about the need to avoid deep cuts. Can you tell me what a deep cut is? Just what per cent would it be?