I just want to be clear that I didn't interpret the comments that way, but I will just speak to our member companies. They spend millions of dollars on apprenticeship training, scholarship refunds, and also in most provinces apprenticeship is public.
The one problem, though, that I will highlight around apprentices is the ratio. We've been calling, and our provincial associations have been calling, for a 1:1 ratio between apprenticeship and journeymen. There are members just in the Ottawa area that tomorrow would hire probably five or ten more electricians, but they can't because the provincial government says you need to have three journeymen for one apprentice. This is a position that's been supported by the building trades union. I don't know why they support keeping young people out of the industry when we have such a shortage of workers. If we could get rid of that ratio—and I know that's not a federal area, but if we could get the provinces just to simply have a 1:1 ratio, that would fix a lot of our problems.