No, in terms of this specific issue that I'm talking about with open tendering, certain people we compete with have gerrymandered the system so that we can't actually compete with them. They're not our competition.
Generally, Merit Canada doesn't necessarily have competition. Each of our members go out into their local market to build buildings and build schools. They compete locally, sometimes with other open-shop companies, sometimes with union shops. As the market works, sometimes they win those competitions and sometimes they lose.