We understood that during that time there was a surplus in the billions, without our going back and forth on exactly what it was.
The point I was getting to is this. You're talking about, currently, a break-even point. Instead of $50 billion, let's say there had been $30 billion in there previously. In the last Parliament—I believe it was the last Parliament—there was a motion passed to take that money off the books.
From a technical standpoint, workers perceived the money that had been used to pay down debt was like a loan and had to be repaid by the government to the fund in order to be there for workers. It was written off the books; thus, we got into this.... Well, I guess it would have been in 2007 or 2008 that this occurred. We started this investment board, the board that was going to take care.
What I'm looking for, though, is when we get to the so-called “break-even point”, how much money would have to be on hand to have a break-even point?