Finance Committee on Nov. 21st, 2012

Evidence of meeting #94 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was chair.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Bill C-45, A second Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 29, 2012 and other measures

Committee Business

Also speaking

Ted Cook Senior Legislative Chief, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Dave Van Kesteren Chatham-Kent—Essex, CPC

Mike MacPherson Procedural Clerk

Chad Mariage Procedural Clerk

Jean Michel Roy Procedural Clerk

Clerk

Paul Cardegna Procedural Clerk

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Now we're on LIB-154.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

Mr. Chair, I request a recorded vote on this.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Now we're on LIB-155.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

Mr. Chair, I'd like to have a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Colleagues, I hear the bells ringing which indicates that votes are upcoming.

I assume I don't have unanimous consent to continue, but could we finish with clause 173?

4:45 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall clause 173 carry?

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

I would like a recorded vote, please.

(Clause 173 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Colleagues, I will suspend and we will resume after the vote.

Thank you.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I call this meeting back to order. This is the 94th meeting of the Standing Committee on Finance.

Colleagues, when we left off, Clause 173 was carried.

(On clause 174)

We are now on clause 174. We have one amendment to clause 174. We have LIB-156. I have a ruling as the chair on this amendment. Bill C-45 amends the Fisheries Act to direct that fines be credited to the Environmental Damages Fund, an account in the accounts of Canada. This amendment proposes to create a board chaired by the minister to administer the fund. House of Commons Procedure and Practice, second edition, states at pages 767-8:

Since an amendment may not infringe upon the financial initiative of the Crown, it is inadmissible if it imposes a charge on the public treasury, or if it extends the objects or purposes or relaxes the conditions and qualifications specified in a royal recommendation.

Therefore, in the opinion of the chair, the amendment would place responsibility for funds within the consolidated revenue fund and a board chaired by the minister, the effect of which would alter the terms and conditions of the royal recommendation. Therefore, I rule this amendment inadmissible.

I shall therefore ask, shall clause 174 carry?

5:40 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Brison Liberal Kings—Hants, NS

Could we have a recorded vote on that please, Mr. Chair.

(Clause 174 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(On clause 175)

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

We will move to clause 175. I have three amendments to clause 175: LIB-157, NDP-11 and LIB-158.

We'll therefore move to the vote on LIB-157.