Okay, obviously I'm not convincing you.
But I do want to go to Ms. Gauthier, very briefly.
In your opening statement you said that, based on the level of employer contributions paid in 2011, you estimated that almost 40,000 charities could benefit from the hiring credit included in this Budget Implementation Act.
Almost 90% of all charities have paid staff. But you said that when the hiring credit came out, many charities did not avail themselves of it because they did not see it as applying to them. Was that because they didn't see themselves as traditional employers, or was it something that the government did or did not do that caused charities not to avail themselves of the credit?