Do you think, sir, that this should be a race to the bottom? Do you think that your employees should be making less? From my perspective, as the president of the PSAC, I don't believe that my membership deserve concessions. I believe they have strong collective agreements. I believe that they do a good job for the federal government. I think we should go into negotiations open-minded and have good solid discussions.
But to put within a budget bill changes to the Public Service Labour Relations Act, I think that's wrong. I don't believe that shows transparency. I don't believe that shows honesty. It certainly doesn't show that you want to have consultation with the stakeholders, which are the unions and others.