Thank you.
I'm going to take the next round.
I want to start with you, Ms. Robinson. I very much agreed with much of your presentation. As you know, we have a very fine institution in Edmonton, NAIT, which trains more apprentices than any other in Canada I think. So it's one of the strongest national institutions.
In your presentation, you said that you saw a strong trend of students enrolling in your institutions who had already completed a university bachelor's degree and who sought targeted skills that would give them a competitive advantage in the marketplace. President Feltham has made the same point to me as well.
So why is that? Why do they do the university degree first and then come to your institutions later?