I suggested that this might be the case and one of the guys piped up almost immediately and said, “You're bleep right. I told my kid”—and this guy was a guy who had a good trade—“you're not going to do this. You're going into police foundations.”
I want your comments on how possibly we're competing against very valuable services, but the private sector can't compete with what we pay these people. Is that maybe part of the problem as well? I'm not quite convinced it's all gravitating to the universities.
Anybody...?