I've talked to a number of large resource sector employers, companies looking for 500 carpenters at a time, 300 welders. Are there any thoughts from your association on the relative ease to acquire temporary foreign workers rather than going through what is somewhat more cumbersome to bring on apprentices who will take a number of years? Then the fear is that once trained they will be drawn away to even more lucrative resource industries.
Does your association have any thoughts on that? Is there any pressure from the temporary foreign worker program? The government has admitted that it got too big and the controls were gone. Did that affect the viability of apprentices actually being able to find those spots and locations with employers that were willing to invest the time and money that's required to get them fully ticketed?