The short answer is I believe so. I think these are common problems that we're trying to find common solutions for.
One thing I'll raise that's a bit of a disappointment is that some of the forums where there is this kind of collaborative multi-stakeholder dialogue are dying off. These sector councils that existed, Germany on a different model, were built on this kind of labour-government-employer collaborative model. We're seeing funding cuts on these things, and they're just dying away. I think that's going in the wrong direction.
To your point, Chair, I think this is a good thing to do, but in practice we're seeing in some ways on a sectoral basis the opposite actually happening.