First of all, SAIT, the Southern Alberta Institute of Technology, actually does a little bit more than NAIT, the Northern Alberta Institute of Technology, in terms of R and D. It's more of a research technical institution. I think you see that at SAIT it has a different approach. SAIT, for example, has developed a degree in construction. They've actually taken the trades and they've been able to add to a straight trades certificate and actually give somebody an opportunity to get higher education.
I'm not sure if that answers your question, but there is a focus at SAIT and we're actually starting to see some results. Maybe if we saw more money going into R and D for trades schools, we might see more of that kind of innovation happening.