The proof will be in the pudding if the Merit Contractors Association and the Progressive Contractors Association of Canada work with the building trades to train people in a non-partisan way and if they'll work with us and let us train their people through the Canada job grant. We have the training infrastructure with 150 training schools across Canada for the trades.
If those nice gentlemen from Merit Contractors Association and the Progressive Contractors Association of Canada will send us their employees to get their welding ticket or their carpentry ticket, a new day has dawned. If they won't, because they still fear us and want us not to exist in the unionized sector, then we're back to where we were.
We're willing, and we really want them to agree to take on apprentices. Those gentlemen who were here from the non-unionized sector tend not to hire as many apprentices as the unionized sector does.