We're talking about reintegration. When you say it's been a year or two that someone hasn't been working and how difficult it is to reintegrate them, does that philosophy apply as well to a recent graduate? Is that a correct understanding of what you're saying?
For someone who just graduated, let's say, and for a year or two they're underemployed essentially because there's nothing available, there's a degradation of skills. We've heard about that problem from other witnesses. Is that a similar phenomenon to, for example, older workers who have been injured and have to reintegrate into the workplace?