We don't have numbers on how much companies actually spend. What we hear a lot from our members in certain areas, engineering for example, is that, in some areas of the country, where there's a lot of construction going on for natural resource extraction, such as for oil sands or with the shipbuilding contracts coming in, companies are really worried about putting too much money into training and then losing the employees. So that's one area.
At the same time, though, they invest a lot of time when somebody who's out of school comes to their plant. What I hear a lot is that they're just not ready to work. Most of them have a very good theoretical knowledge of what they should be doing in the plant, but they've never worked with the equipment.