Thank you, Mr. Van Kesteren.
I'm going to take the final round. I appreciate a lot of the clarification by many of you on your suggestions for amendments.
I want to follow up, in the time I have, with you, Mr. Lavoie. You said in your statement, “Our members' survey indicate year after year that more than 50% of manufacturers are currently facing skills and labour shortage...”. That's certainly what I hear in my region, and it's certainly what I hear from a lot of business organizations. Yet there have many national studies done, by the C.D. Howe Institute, Parliamentary Budget Officer, TD Economics, essentially saying that there is no national labour shortage whatsoever, that this is a problem that has been overblown in terms of its attention.
What is your response to that? It's certainly not the reality faced in my riding, but my riding may be an anomaly. You're a business organization with members across the country. How do you respond to those kinds of reports?