That's right, Mr. Chair.
I think to the credit of everyone around the table, this is something that we've been grappling with: how do we deal with this financing issue? There have been experiments with tax credits. There have been experiments with direct subsidies. A budget a couple of years ago launched the venture capital action plan. I think the last frontier, and what I think could make a significant improvement in access to capital, is looking at and reforming the capital gains tax system.