That's most helpful. I think you're absolutely right.
I want to tell you a little story, and I'm going to ask you to comment on this too. This is in regard to the colleges and the different programs that are offered.
In my own circumstance, I have a number of sons who are policemen. It's a great job. I was addressing a group of tradespeople, and we were having a discussion about the pay of the one as to the other. I made the suggestion that maybe we're attracting more people in those jobs than in the actual trades. One guy responded and said, “You're bleep bleep right.” He said, I told my son—I think this guy was a plumber or something—that there's no way he was going to take this job; he was going into the police services.
Are you competing against those types of jobs? Second, is there a role to play for governments to recognize that when they compete for talent they're actually making it more difficult for young people to enter the trades, or at least choose the trades as opposed to some of these other government jobs?