The 45% is real, and I've articulated in my brief what activities that 45¢ on every $1 covers. If eventually the government decides that we're going to cap the finances in support of indirect costs, then we should ensure that whatever moneys we have are distributed at whatever flat rate we can afford, to the places where research is being done. So 45% is pretty close to real costs, but if the government can't afford 45% but only 30%, to accommodate giving more to the—
On November 7th, 2013. See this statement in context.