I really appreciate your saying that because the report went on to talk about Canada's aging research fleet.
At the University of Victoria, people are arriving from around the world to access the research we're doing on oceans. It's quite thrilling to see, but this report is damning and implying a lack of leadership that's very upsetting.
I want to go to Ms. Robinson of Polytechnics Canada and build on a question that Ms. Nash asked. You didn't have a chance to finish, so I hope I can ask you to expand a little bit. I'm very troubled by the apprenticeship deficit in Canada. You started to talk about the K-to-12 issue, then you began talking about some 400,000 people in the apprenticeship system. Can you continue on that? I wasn't entirely clear about the second point you were making.