Very quickly, because we have a limit on time, and our chair is very mean, I can tell you, let me ask Mr. MacDonald of Imagine Canada this. You talked about Visa, MasterCard, major credit card companies and banks reducing or eliminating merchant fees. You also talked about coming to the table, which is an expression that I really like, but have you as the charitable sector invited the major banks and the credit card folks to your table to ask can we get rid of the credit card fees on charitable giving?
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