(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4)
(Motion negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Thank you all for that discussion.
I want to thank our guests—our witnesses—for your patience. We had to deal with the motion between the two panels. Thank you so much for being here with respect to our pre-budget consultations 2014.
I'll just identify who we have before us. We have, as an individual, Mr. Gareth Kirkby. Welcome to the committee. We have the Canadian Bankers Association, the president, Mr. Terry Campbell. Welcome back. We have the Chartered Professional Accountants of Canada, president and CEO, Mr. Kevin Dancey. From Deloitte we have the global tax policy leader, Mr. Albert Baker, and from the Investment Industry Association of Canada we have Mr. Brian Parker, who's the president and CEO of Acumen Capital Partners.
Welcome to all of you. Thank you so much for being with us.
You each have five minutes maximum for an opening statement, and then we'll have questions from members.
We'll start with Mr. Kirkby, please.