But the Americans really haven't curbed their spending. As a matter of fact, they have increased their spending. They have doubled their debt in six years from $8 trillion to $16 trillion.
Isn't that running...? I'm not here to argue. I'm just trying to understand this thing because, where I come from—and I would dare say all of us have come from here, especially I'm speaking now of the older generation—you didn't get into debt to get out of debt.
Now I understand there is a theory that says if governments spend more, they can kick-start the economy.
Is that kind of what you're saying?