There was an interesting case in Germany where one of the banks had charged a negative rate. I hope we don't see that in Canada. I don't expect that to happen.
We have had some interesting discussions here too.
I want to talk to you about austerity. I want to talk to you about whether that is something we should pursue. I'm thinking not so much in terms of the infrastructure; most of us probably would agree that infrastructure is something that will contribute to the overall growth of the economy. However, in terms of governments managing and not spending in areas where.... Let's take as a simple illustration an office that was making a foot of paper and we reduce that to a half. There are those—and I was witness to that at the recent OECD conference—for whom austerity was something that was not only frowned upon, but governments were asked to back away from. It would appear to me—I don't remember the philospher's name from the 1900s, but it's a story about the broken glass. I'm sure you as an economist know which one I'm talking about. Isn't that something that we are meddling in, if we don't encourage that kind of austerity? That certainly can't be something that's going to contribute to growth in the economy. Wouldn't you agree?