I was looking for an opportunity to maybe wrap up some of my thoughts.
Mr. Rafiq, I appreciate what you were saying. The discourse started that this is not an unusual phenomenon, that this is something that transcends society in different areas. I beg to differ. I say that because if we begin to institute measures to de-radicalize.... I think we'd all agree that what's taking place in Islam today in that radicalization is something that we must guard against. I would suggest we put in measures do that, and I would hope you'd do the same thing in Britain.
We don't provide jobs. That's a mistake. We lay the groundwork in which economies can flourish, so that people can find meaningful employment. We offer good education.
I'm a bit of a libertarian myself. Ms. Vonn might like to hear this. I would argue that the government is doing those things and does those things very well. However—and this is the danger I see in what you're suggesting—if we begin to institutionalize some format to have people thinking in a certain way, I'm afraid Ms. Vonn might say, and I would certainly stand up and say, “I don't know about this”.
I'm a bit of a farmer. I like doing things the natural way, and maybe the government will at some point challenge those beliefs. I think we really need to focus in on a certain area.
Can you comment quickly? I'm going to ask Mr. Clement about some more terrorist funding after that.