We have been at the bargaining table for a year or more, and we have been very forthright and forthcoming and wanting to discuss the issue with the bargaining agents. We haven't been all that successful with getting them engaged on the issue, and still we're striving today to get them engaged on this issue. We're going out in all different ways to try to get them to talk to us and provide us with reasonable improvements to the plans we're putting forward for discussion, and we're still hopeful that we're going to be able to get them involved in that.