Evidence of meeting #87 for Finance in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Miodrag Jovanovic  Director, Personal Income Tax, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Denis Martel  Director, Patent Policy Directorate, Department of Industry
Steven Kuhn  Chief, International Finance, International Trade and Finance Branch, Department of Finance
David Charter  Senior Advisor, Strategic Policy, Department of Employment and Social Development
Kim Gowing  Senior Director, Pension Policy and Stakeholder Relations, Treasury Board Secretariat
Mark Potter  Director General, Policing Policy Directorate, Law Enforcement and Policing Branch, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Robert Abramowitz  Counsel, Department of Justice, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

Mr. Saxton, you can address all of those amendments together, if you wish.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Saxton Conservative North Vancouver, BC

We're on division 20, clause 254. Is that correct?

I just want to say that the government continues to negotiate with bargaining agents and is prepared to consider reasonable improvements to its tabled proposals. In the event that after all reasonable attempts have been made it is impossible to reach a negotiated outcome, the government will need to have alternative options available.

Revising lines 16 and 17 of clause 254 would take away the government's ability to consider alternative options to modernize sick leave provisions in the event an agreement cannot be reached within a reasonable timeframe. Taking away this flexibility would prevent the government from addressing the health and well-being of employees who do not have sufficient banked sick days to get them through to long-term disability.

This is a consequential amendment directly tied to the previous proposal and as such, it cannot be accepted. Moreover, accepting this change would lead to a range of different sick leave regimes across the core public administration. This would undermine the government's intent to be fair to both employees and taxpayers. Multiple regimes are inefficient and expensive for taxpayers while being inequitable for employees.

That was in relation to the suggestion in paragraph (b).

That's all I have for clause 254.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you, Mr. Saxton.

We'll go to the vote on PV-54.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll vote on clause 254.

5:40 p.m.

An hon. member

A recorded vote.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

(Clause 254 agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)

Colleagues, I don't have any amendments on clauses 255 to 259. May I group those together?

5:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

It will be a recorded vote which applies to clauses 255 to 259.

(Clauses 255 to 259 inclusive agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)

We'll go to clause 260 and to the vote on PV-56.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

It will be a recorded vote on clause 260.

(Clause 260 agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)

May I group together clauses 261 to 266?

5:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

There will be a recorded vote that applies to all of those clauses.

(Clauses 261 to 266 inclusive agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)

We will go to clause 267, and we'll go to the vote on PV-58.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

May we apply the recorded vote to clauses 267 to 272?

5:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Mr. Saxton, do you want to address that?

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Saxton Conservative North Vancouver, BC

Is the proponent of PV-57 and PV-58 going to speak to them?

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

He spoke to all of his amendments together.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Saxton Conservative North Vancouver, BC

I'd like to speak to this one.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

You can speak to this one.

(On clause 267—Modifications)

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Saxton Conservative North Vancouver, BC

The government continues to negotiate with bargaining agents and is prepared to consider reasonable improvements to its tabled proposal regarding the short-term disability program. In the event that, after all reasonable attempts have been made, it is impossible to reach a negotiated outcome, the government will need to have alternative options available.

In the event that a new short-term disability plan is established, this proposed revision would take away the government's ability to align the coverage period for a short-term plan with the waiting period of the long-term disability programs.

That is for clause 267.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

Colleagues, we voted on PV-58, and that was defeated, so we're now on clauses 267 to 272. We'll have a recorded vote that applies to all of them.

(Clauses 267 to 272 inclusive agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)

We're on clause 273 and we're at PV-60. This is deemed moved.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

There will be a recorded vote on clause 273.

(Clause 273 agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4)

Shall schedule 1 carry?

5:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:40 p.m.

An hon. member

On division.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall schedule 2 carry?

5:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

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An hon. member

On division.

5:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall the short title carry?

5:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:40 p.m.

An hon. member

On division.