You made sure we got that qualifier at the end of your comments.
On the employment rate, Mr. Stanford, you say that's the key part. The decline in the labour force participation is key. With EI rates going down, we're seeing, I think, even more people not being eligible to receive EI benefits.
I asked the last panel this, and perhaps I can get your comments on it. We're seeing 72% more Canadians working for minimum wage, so they're almost living in poverty. With two million unemployed, is there a measurement out there of those who are underemployed? Is there a measurement out there of those working so close to the line as to being close to living in poverty?