Absolutely.
I'll turn to English more quickly than Gabriel did.
Absolutely. Here are my concerns. I'm in the business community. I'm seated at the far right of the table, and some will say appropriately so. I always joke that I have never been green about much, but I'm green about fish. We have the experience of poor fisheries management combined with the ecosystem change. We didn't just lose directives fisheries—as the chair will know full well—we also lost non-directive species. When the moratoriums hit in 1992-1993, it wasn't just commercial fisheries that were missing because we had overcaught or because the ecosystem had changed; we lost species that we had never had a directive for, that didn't come up in the fall surveys. We have the experience of collapse. It's a historical model of collapse, a horror story of collapse, and the world is watching now to see if we get it right this time around.
Under the TAGS program the chair referred to, $5 billion in income supports was spent in Atlantic Canada. Is that sustainable? Was that the best way forward? Are we prepared to do it again in the face of shellfish collapse? We take the basket that Mother Nature delivers to us and we need to fish from it sustainably.
My concern is with the first model, which is harvest-driven to derive wealth. I think we've run the experiment with the lowest population or birth rate of any province in the country or state and an aging population, and nobody is coming here from Manila for 10 weeks' work in rural Newfoundland and Labrador. That model will not run. That dog won't run. I think the third model will prioritize sustainable fisheries. It will allow more rent extraction from ministry participants so we can manage fisheries better. We can do better science and take the right removals from the ocean, and, I think, derive more value from them. I think that's the only model that can be sustainable. Make it environmentally sustainable. Do the right science and derive more value from the marketplace. We owe that to the ecosystem. Our history there is quite sad.