There have been different attempts to put a specific figure on money laundering. Those figures can be in the range $5 billion to $20 billion, but inherently we don't know what we don't know. If we could identify the money laundering, then the efforts would be to deter and detect it. It is large, it is significant, and it is a threat. We have published a national inherent risk assessment that attempts to speak in a more qualitative sense of the nature of the threat and how pervasive it is, so I would refer you to that work.
The number of prosecutions is relatively low when it comes to money laundering and terrorist financing, given what I think people often expect. Ian spoke earlier to the findings of the Financial Action Task Force that pointed to a dynamic whereby the law enforcement entities will often use financial information that is surfaced through the regime to identify the predicate crimes, and then they will often prosecute the underlying predicate crime rather than the money laundering or terrorist financing offence.
I offer that as an alternate aspect of what success—