If you give me an indication, Mr. Chair, of what types of statistics are sought, I can tell you, for example, that in the last five years, we've had 163 money laundering proceeds of crime prosecutions. Those are prosecutions that have drugs in them as well. In terms of standalone money laundering and proceeds of crime, the classic, we've had 46 during that five-year period.
In Canada, the structure that exists is one where one doesn't have to even have a charge of proceeds of crime or money laundering with respect to the money that is generated through drugs, for example. The conviction itself, on the drugs, will be the avenue for purposes of forfeiture. On those we have thousands.
I can indicate, for example, that with regard to proceeds of crime cases during the last five years, we've had a total of over 20,000 files. Of those, there have been findings of guilt for the proceeds of crime or drugs, because that can also lead to the forfeiture, in 11,000 on those files. That accounts for approximately 63%.
If one were to take out of the picture those cases where there was insufficient evidence or a determination was made that it was not going to proceed to a prosecution in terms of a withdrawl or stay, then the convictions are approximately 84% on average during those five years.
It's a complex mix in Canada, because of the arrangement with respect to the substantive offence. I focus on drugs, because drugs are a significant part of our area. I'm sure if the provincial attorneys general were speaking to you, they would talk about other matters, for example, like ordinary frauds.