You can provide that to the committee.
We're out of time, and I don't really want to get into this discussion, but if you have no investment, your economy's going nowhere. You can't be all of one and none of the other.
I've been in business, and if you don't make investments.... Yes, you'll have debt, but you have to make investments to get growth, too, right?
Mr. Sorbara.
We will have time for one more if there's anyone else.