No, I wouldn't call the minister's comments wrong. I think we need to be clear on what is occurring in British Columbia. There is a layering effect going on. If there's an issue in B.C. casinos, it may be with proceeds of crime being used. As to the actual laundering of money to make it clean, there's no evidence that it has occurred.
The proceeds of crime issue is very different and very hard for a casino to detect without taking additional measures. One of those measures was taken in British Columbia, but when an individual with a money services business lends money or puts money in somebody else's hands and that person comes in—it could be a customer known to the casino, and casino patrons do use cash—and it's a known patron, those are the issues they have to deal with to determine the source of cash.
Now, the Government of British Columbia has taken one extra step in saying that sources for people need to be determined when deciding to step in. That was one final, additional measure that was added, but during this process, walking in with large amounts of cash, playing a little bit, and walking out with a cheque didn't occur. People using the proceeds of crime and playing in casinos would be a more accurate determination, I think, of what has gone on.