Yes. Even my good friend beside me here. We're not monolithic.
Most of our evidence has been based on all of the studies that have looked at the P3 experience and the cost of it over the long term. While there may be a short-term gain by getting others to be partners, what we have determined is that in the long term, the administration of a project costs more in the end after it's been built by a public-private partnership. We have looked at this. We can provide you with those studies to document this, but again, our movement is not monolithic on this question. We have differences of opinion. We respect those differences of opinion.
Certainly, as the president of the congress, I'm here to tell you that that's been our view to a large extent. Of course, my colleagues in the building trades will tell you that they are always partnering when there is an opportunity to build in this country. If they are asked to partner, they will partner without any hesitation. They build good union-made projects in this country that serve a lifetime. If they think there is an opportunity, they will take advantage of it.
I will let my buddy speak for himself in the building trades.