Then I would I see two things on that front.
First of all, when I listen to Mr. Elgie present and I take a look at the number of non-academics who are supporting.... I'm certain that all these companies that have signed on to the smart prosperity leaders' initiative.... There are over 150 companies, a whole bunch of companies, from the Desjardins Group to Enerkem, to all the major banks, to Cenovus, to big leaders.... It seems to me that these are not necessarily your academic elites, but people who are practising, who very much have skin in the game, who compete globally, and who really want to make sure that their companies remain globally competitive and at the top of their game. I'm just a little perplexed about how a person of your stature could still hold that point of view, which seems a little ad hominem.