Evidence of meeting #157 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ann Sheppard  Senior Counsel, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
Bernard Butler  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy and Commemoration, Department of Veterans Affairs
John Moffet  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Pierre Mercille  Director General (Legislation), Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Suzie Cadieux  Procedural Clerk

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

I had said at the last meeting that I also had an amendment.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I think it relates to the schedule, does it not?

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

I'm sorry; it's clause 405.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay.

(Clause 404 as amended agreed to on division)

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Do you have an amendment from the floor?

May 23rd, 2018 / 4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Yes. This is a technical amendment. I think everybody has a copy from yesterday, but I'll read it.

I propose that Bill C-74, in section 1 of the schedule to part XXII.1 in schedule 6 on page 556, be amended by adding the following after proposed paragraph (z.3):

(z.4) section 462.31 (laundering proceeds of crime).

This is simply in the list of offences. It's my understanding that the—

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Ms. O'Connell, is the amendment you're talking about dealing with page 556?

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

It's page 556, yes.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

It's dealing with schedule 6. So can we hold it until that time?

4:25 p.m.

An hon. member

On page 556.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Yes, I have that. It's schedule 6, section 405. It's in the list of offences. It's the very last page of the bill.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Could we have the legislative clerk talk to you for a minute? We want to get this right.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

My daughter got third place in a speech competition.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Your daughter? Well, congratulations. She doesn't get it honestly. Oops, that's on the record. She does get it honestly.

4:25 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

I move that the committee unanimously congratulate this brilliant young lady.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

The chair will congratulate Dan Albas' daughter for coming in third in the speech competition.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

That's very kind.

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay, we've passed clause 404 as amended.

We'll come back to the schedules at the end, Ms. O'Connell.

On division 20, there are no amendments for clauses 405 to 409.

(Clauses 405 to 409 inclusive agreed to on division)

(On clauses 120 to 161)

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We are returning to part 4, “Canadian Forces Members and Veterans”.

There are some officials here from the great city of Charlottetown, the Department of Veterans Affairs. Officials, please come forward in case there are questions. There might be none.

We have Mr. Butler, assistant deputy minister, strategic policy and commemoration.

On “Canadian Forces Members and Veterans”, there are no amendments for clauses 120 to 161, but are there questions for officials by any members on the committee?

4:25 p.m.

An hon. member

Did we pass...?

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

No. It's related to schedule 6, so it can't come up yet. It's not on the floor yet.

Are there any questions for the officials?

Go ahead, Mr. Albas.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

This is in regard to the pension for life. I had raised issues with the Minister of Finance, and we had asked specifically for any kind of modelling to show the previous regime coupled with what is proposed. Mr. Julian also asked for that. I asked for that. There were some questions.

We had a veteran come and discuss that there was an inequity between males and females in terms of the pension for life. If they chose not to take a lump sum based on a monthly payment, females would receive less. Could you please inform us whether that information has come in? We've asked multiple times for that information.

4:30 p.m.

Bernard Butler Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy and Commemoration, Department of Veterans Affairs

Mr. Chair, I'm not certain whether or not that has been provided. I will certainly check to see, because we do have a fair amount of detailed modelling showing what these impacts are and how those calculations are made for both males and females. You should have access to it relatively shortly, if not now.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Okay, thank you.