Thank you all.
Before I turn to Mr. Van Kesteren, I have a question for CAPP as well. What's your estimate of the Alberta discount because we don't have access to other markets, other than the United States?
Second, I want to bridge this gap between the subsidy issue. Mr. Vaughan from the International Institute for Sustainable Development is working to identify and eliminate largely indirect subsidies through tax treatment to fossil fuels, which is you guys, and you're saying that CAPP firmly disagrees with the current views on what constitutes a subsidy. How are we going to bridge that gap? Who wants to start?