Okay, thank you all.
Before I come across to Mr. Fergus, to Ms. Lee I want to say that the thrust of our pre-budget consultations is how we become more competitive and strengthen our economy, and you mentioned PMRA and CFIA. Both Phil and I have substantial experience with those groups, and you said that they're hindered by lack of resources. My point of view is that we can't continue to spend more and more money. If we give these agencies more resources, they'll hire more managers, which is not what we need. What's the solution without extending more funds to these agencies? I can tell you some horror stories with PMRA, as you know, and CFIA, and I agree fully with your full-picture analysis: They look at their own narrow focus.
I can give you an example. CFIA is trying to close down an operation in Newfoundland where ACOA has just spent $2 million improving the port, and they'll export $200 million worth of seafood out there, but their closest CFIA office now would be 200 miles away. I've never heard tell of anything so stupid in my life.
In any event, how do we do it without spending more money?