I want to come back to the point that Mr. Julian raised earlier in a question to Ms. Drouin. On the pipeline, there are all different sides to the story, and I think Mr. Julian said that the expense would be $4.5 billion for a used pipeline and $10 billion in order to do the development, somewhere around those figures.
The other side of the coin is that there is what's called an “Alberta discount”, in terms of a discount we take in oil prices because we're captive to the U.S. market. Frank McKenna says that the cost to the country of that discount is $17 billion. Yesterday, when we were at Irving Oil, we heard the figure to be much higher, but I can give you yesterday's figure. In yesterday's oil prices, the discount for every single barrel of oil we sent to the United States yesterday was $39.47. That adds up to a heck of a lot of money.
I will take my side, but I'm telling you there are two sides to this story. If we didn't have that Alberta discount, and we had that $17 billion per year in our economy, it would do a lot. All I'm saying, Peter, is that there are two sides to the story. You're entitled to your opinion, and others are entitled to theirs.
We'll go with three single questions: one from the Liberals, one from the Conservatives, and one from the NDP.
Greg, go ahead.