Okay. Thank you.
First, to CARP, I had a seniors' forum last year, a town hall. Anthony Quinn, from CARP, came and blessed us with his presence.
I was there the day that the Prime Minister visited CARP headquarters, not very far from here, during the last election. We've fulfilled nearly all our commitments to seniors. We'll see. I think there's a seniors index that we're looking at.
From my prior background, I know the Indalex case, and you know what I'm speaking to, on defined benefit pension plans. Their jurisdiction falls between the province and the federal government. Therefore, when we are talking about super-priority status, the Supreme Court has ruled on this case. In fact, when a company gets into trouble, when you grant seniors super-priority creditor status in a defined benefit pension plan, no one is going to lend to the company, when you go into a debtor position in financing. Right?
To me, there has to be another way where we get to where we protect defined benefit pension plans—that is, not allow the company to underfund it in the beginning, so avoid the problem in the first place.
One thing I want to ask you about is the clawback rate on GIS. Can you focus on your recommendation 5? I think that would help a lot of seniors.