I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I only have seven minutes and we're halfway through.
There are those who talk about virtue signalling and the idea of gender equality being part of a trade agenda in the sense that it's not even worth pursuing, that really the idea ought to be dollars and cents, making sure that it's all about cold, hard economics. They imply that should be put on the back burner and not to worry about those things.
What is your view on that?