Mr. Galimberti, I just want to go down the road a little more of your comment on overproduction and surplus, but first let me frame the question.
About a week and a half ago, on a weekend, I met with an owner of a local steel company in my riding in southwestern Ontario. They employ just over 400 individuals and have very good wage structures, as you had mentioned. He was expressing to me the fact, first, anecdotally, that they dealt with four other companies in the Cambridge area. I'm from Brantford, and so this company's in Brantford. He said all those companies were gone.
That leads me to what I want to ask you, what are the prospects in the future? They burn somewhere in the neighbourhood of $80,000 a month worth of natural gas processing the steel. He said that with the cost of electricity; with a projected carbon tax that they're looking at costing, when they break it down by employee, of about $9,000 more overhead a year per employee; and the prospect of additional payroll taxes because of what was mentioned, I think, by another witnesses, including the Ontario pension plan that is being put in place—