Since we're kind of having a discussion here, I'll add that I think sometimes it's done to keep their plant running until they figure things will turn around. It happens in the farm sector. You sell at a loss and you keep producing in the hope that things are going to turn around, but they don't necessarily do.
Are we all in, all done?
Okay, thank you very much, folks. We had an interesting and general discussion beyond the bill itself, so we appreciate your appearance before the committee on short notice. Thank you for that.
For committee members' information, I know the clerk is calling all the witnesses that members or parties have presented to him. We're having some difficulty, in that we can't do teleconferencing tomorrow because we don't have a room and it takes 24 hours to arrange it or whatever, but we'll try to work that through. We will meet tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon.
With that, the meeting is adjourned.