Let me just follow up a little further.
One of the things I am trying to get a better sense of, without having a lot of knowledge about this particular situation.... The essence of Mr. Wiebe's presentation—either one of you can answer this—is that what is being discussed today is looking at things through a different lens from the one back in 1988, when it was established. In essence, what Mr. Wiebe was telling our committee, and I want to make sure that he has his facts correct at the table, is that at that period of time, and looking through the lens of those 10 years, this was a legal means of tax planning.