It's an interesting term for you to use, because it leads one to think that instead of complete objectivity, what some people see—especially people who are in business, such as the vehicle manufacturers here in Canada, and other small business people—is what I would say is a significant impact. That’s from the information we have from CFIB and others, which represent a broad number of businesses across the country, and the Canadian Chamber of Commerce as well.
I know Ontario came out because they didn't want the ORPP and Kathleen Wynne's plan. That said, I'm a little bit surprised at the use of the word “modest”, because some people's “modest” is other people's “significant” impact, depending on the scale of operations you have and such.
Can I ask you this question? Ontario was going down the road of implementing a plan. It had spent about $70 million in terms of its government taxation spending in Ontario, Ontario taxpayers' money, toward setting this plan up. I won't talk about the other aspects of tearing it down, which cost more money than you can believe. Again, maybe it's modest in some people's minds.
Did you use any of the information and research that Ontario did to set up the ORPP in coming to any of your modelling or your projections?