Perhaps I could take 30 seconds. It's a great question.
A key element of what we're doing, as I mentioned before, is open innovation. It's not just about the mining sector, it's about other sectors as well. We're reaching out to aboriginal businesses already. We've talked to some aboriginal businesses to see if the technology or the solutions they have could potentially fit under the towards zero waste strategy. So that's going on.
Potentially we could have transferable skills, not just mining-related skills. They could be relevant to ICT or to other sectors of the economy instead of being service-related sectors for mining in sunset-type scenarios.