Thank you. I'll start, perhaps.
It's a twofold problem. Getting after the low-hanging fruit of these concrete one-offs is one way to get at solving red tape. We've heard about interprovincial trade issues. One of my favourite examples of the inanity of our country sometimes is the fact that those small creamers that you put in your coffee are different sizes across the country. One is 14 millilitres and another is 16 millilitres. If you're trying to produce those, then you have to produce different sizes if you want to produce them and send them interprovincially. It doesn't make any sense. There's no reason for that.
When reducing red tape and taking it from the 30,000-foot level, you have to be able to measure what you manage. That's why our suggestion is to start by counting the obligations that are on business owners right now to comply, which they want to do.
We're setting aside anything to do with health and safety. Those obviously are there for good reasons.
For other regulations and legislation that are in place right now, which have not been thought through as to what the impact is on the business owner, let's start by counting them so that we can reduce through things like the one-for-one rule. In B.C., they did the two-for-one rule to bring regulations down and ask officials in government to look at where we can eliminate. That's one aspect.
The second aspect is to report and be transparent about that behaviour and what government ideas they're putting forward to be able to reduce red tape.
We recommend you work with industry. We have lots of ideas that we could give you on the low-hanging fruit. We've done lots of research as an organization about the monetary impact on businesses in Canada, from both the consumer and the citizen perspective compared to the U.S. There's a lot of research I can provide the committee with after, if you're interested. We certainly are looking forward to being a partner in this with the government and trying to get out of the way, so to speak, in a collaborative manner.