I'll have to cut you off there. We'll come to you, Mr. Caron, in one second.
I do have a question for both farm organizations. It is not about budgetary expense. It's on the importation of milk proteins, the biofiltered milk issue, where products are coming in and companies have found a way to get around the border rules on milk ingredients. How much is that costing domestic producers? Do you have a handle on that? How would it benefit the economy if Canada Border Services Agency defined those ingredients as they're supposed to be? It's not a budgetary measure, but it is an important measure for domestic producers.
I'll start with you, Mr. Slomp, and then Mr. Ross.