That's a good question because it will really depend on where it is, what type of oil it is. I've heard everything from $50, at this point, being a price at which people could start to do some things again, and then not that long ago, at least $70 or $80 a barrel.
I think there have been a lot of efficiencies brought into the system because they had to.... So the price at which you could actually make money has decreased quite a bit, but there is still room. I'm not sure where this question is going to come, but I'm sure it's coming somewhere. That's why there is some concern about the carbon pricing. It's all related to this, given the fact that this is a very energy-dependent province, whether it's mining, or oil and gas.
Any time we're adding to the cost of that is a concern for us. I do understand and appreciate that the money will come back to the province and that it will be revenue neutral to the Government of Canada, but we're concerned about it.
But I'll go back to pipelines. Pipelines are absolutely vital in the future, from our perspective, for us to get our products to tidewater.